It is interesting to discover VODKAMAN lives not too far away from me, I live near Whitby, N Yorks and have only just discovered there is a real chance of catching Sea Bass here having fished only for Cod for the last 30 years!
I understand about the CD being too brittle but have no idea what plano boxes are however I do have plenty of 8 stone fish boxes I could cut up which are made of much more durable plastic? I am sure I will come across all sorts of stuff if I keep looking around.
I also see Diemai's point about marking & drilling the blank before shaping but the blank I used in this case was a round chair leg.
If anyone can tell me how to post pictures on here I will be able to explain my questions better & keep you informed of any successes/failures.
Thanks
MINESAPINT
PS. VODKAMAN. Can you see any smoke coming from Fleetwood this morning?
Hi ,
Do a search at "Search Forums" on top right column of page , type in "posting pictures" , there are some threads there explaining how to upload pictures , I suppose .
I upload my own thumbnails from my own computer file .
After loading them from the camera into my foto program(Picasa 2) I reduce their original size to 650 pixels and export them into a file , also I re-name them , since sometimes double named pics occur , when taking pictures at different times and having deleted the memory of the camera before .
Two pics with same name won't work out in one file or one post.
When writing a post , and you want to add a pic , just scroll below the typing field to a bar "Manage Attachements" , click on it and a second window will open with three "Search Files" bars .
Clicking on these should open your own picture files , so you could choose and mark the ones(three possible)you want to upload .
After choosing scroll in that window to the right to the "Upload" bar , click it........ , and you're done .
The pics name appear at the "Manage Attachement" field and you can submit your post containing thumbnail pics .
Ok , this is from an absolute computer dummy , but maybe , it could help .
When looking for lip material , do not use plexiglas ! It looks rigid , but will break !
There is a thread about it in here , don't remember its name , try a search on "Lip Broke "
Good Success , diemai
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Minesapint. I missed the smoke unfortunately, probably didn't reach Indonesia, where I am living at the moment.
Great pic, looks like a haven for sea bass. I used to play in brass bands, so spent a lot of time in north Yorkshire. Beautiful part of the country, pity I can't understand a word the locals are talkin'.
We have another TU member residing in Yorkshire, PhilB. Very experienced lure designer and a nice guy too.
Minesapint. I missed the smoke unfortunately, probably didn't reach Indonesia, where I am living at the moment.
Great pic, looks like a haven for sea bass. I used to play in brass bands, so spent a lot of time in north Yorkshire. Beautiful part of the country, pity I can't understand a word the locals are talkin'.
We have another TU member residing in Yorkshire, PhilB. Very experienced lure designer and a nice guy too.
Dave
Minesapint,
That is a beautiful place. Of course, when the wind gets up, I bet it can be pretty "interesting".
If this works this is where I fish. Will post pics of lure in the making in due course.
Eyup
Minsapint as well Speckled Hen if you please. Welcome to the TU.
I don't make anything small enough for Bass, maybe in due course but not at the moment. Through wiring is the way forward as regards hook hangers and your concern and I think. Screw eyes are OK in a hardwood and wont pull but cant be used in a soft wood like balsa or pine (balsa is actually a hardwood but is very soft ).
I would suggest you become a full member and then you can take advantage of the ace tutorials that are available. There is oceans of info to be had here and you should take full advantage of the search facility, you are bound to come up with an answer, if you don't then just ask away, the best lure makers on the planet are right here and willing to help, a great bunch of fellas. Hazmail is the guy who has inspired me to go down the road of through wiring my baits and I had the great honour and pleasure of spending a week in his company last April at the TU get together in Clinton (that proves how addictive this site is !!!! so there is no hope for you as soon as you make your first lure that is it you are on the train and there ain't no getting off).
Now then, I thought I new the east coast pretty well but I don't recognize the place in the photo, I suspect it is north of Whitby, am I right ?? please put me out of my misery. There are quite a lot of bass showing on the east coast now whereas only 10 years ago the only place you could catch em was the channel, probably something to do with global warming.
Have a good look round the gallery when you need inspiring and don't forget to post pictures of your creations. For supplies which are as rare as chickens lips in the UK follow the link, I have posted a couple of suppliers for luremaking materials. Dave is being generous when he calls me a 'lure designer' as there is no science in my lure making, I get an idea and make it, if it works 'yipee' if it dont well I know for next time, so far I have been lucky and most have been succesfull. There are a lot of plastics guys on the board and these I am sure will be of interest to you as well.
PhilB - The picture is Runswick Bay so you were correct it is north of Whitby. I go sailing & fishing there in my small boat, in fact as the weather has improved I will be going this morning. Yes I am a fair weather angler.
I have not yet fished for Bass, in fact I have never even seen one in the flesh. I will be buying some lures to get me started next time I am in Whitby.
I have shaped 6 lures and photographed them and intend to post them on here for comments before proceeding. I found shaping the lures fairly simple although I assume it is the easiest part of the operation. I made 1 from beech, 1 from oak and 4 from foreign hardwood (unknown).
You are correct, I am chewing over the best way to go regarding hook hangers and accept that good quality eyes screwed & glued into hardwood will be secure but where can you purchase such eyes. Through wiring has to be more secure but this will involve either cutting the lures in half to facilitate fitting or accurate drilling. I understand welders use stainless wire which I imagine will be OK for wiring lures?
If you don't make lures small enough for Bass how big are yours if its not too personal a question! and what do you fish for?
Usually I use SSt screw eyes on my lures , since it is so simple , but ocassionally I also make them thru-wired by cuting a slot into their bellies .
For an essay for a German angling magazine I have made this wire eyelet , since those SSt screweyes are not available over here just "round the corner" .
Before publishing this design I have off course pull-tested these :
I have glued them into the ends of a wood dowel with 5 min. two-component glue , let it set for three days (maximum strength after describtion) and after fixed one end onto my vise with a piece of cord .
On the other end I have tied another cord onto the opposite eye and used my fishing scales and pulled as hard as I could , at 23 kilograms(50 lbs) the cord snapped , due to the sudden release the scale spoilt ! But the eyes did not move a bit !
Under real fishing conditions such force would not occur(maybe with musky and silure , but not with pike) , since the pull force would not be in alignment of the wire shaft of the eyelet , also the rod and drag would feather down the pull force quite a bit .
So I am confident about those eyes of SSt welding wire , provided to be glued in thoroughly .
You need them to fit SNUGLY into their bore , best is , if you can only TWIST them in , not just push .
You need to fill up the bore with glue by means of a toothpick or wire piece , not just apply glue to the eyes shank , since it would wipe off when placing the eye !
Also extend the entry(1/5 to 1/4 of shaft length) of the hole to a slightly larger diameter , so that a kinda "glue-plug" evolves there , wipe off excess glue , after curing 24 hrs you can cut the eye clean of glue with a knife and/or "Dremel" , but in this case don't tie on your line straight to the toweye , use a snap , since micro-blemishes caused by the cutting on the eye might damage your line .
I've been using this welding wire for many years(spinners , thru-wires) , there is a shop for it two villages further down the road , it comes in rods of one metre length and is a lot cheaper than special luremaking wire from tackle suppliers .
It's just a little softer , does not have to be considered for such a purpose , only for lures with rotating parts I use a more rigid kinda wire for the center axis .
I use it in diametres of 1 mm and 1,5 mm(for big lures) , also coiled welding wire of 0,8 mm is available , but this one always has to be straightened out before shaping its form .
Greetz , Dieter
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That's a really neat homemade screw eye and a great idea to slot the lures belly to fit through wires. I was thinking of cutting a saw cut in the lures belly for another reason - to epoxy sheet lead into. Could kill 2 birds with 1 stone?
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