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Old October 5th, 2008
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Alternative Lipless Crankbait Designs?

I am a big fan of lipless crank baits - rattlin' rapala, bill lewis rattle trap, etc. But all the ones I've seen are pretty much the same shape. Are there other lipless crankbait shapes, like a shad body, bluegill shape, etc.?
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Old October 5th, 2008
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Re: Alternative Lipless Crankbait Designs?

I bought a couple from strikeprousa.com and from Cultiva that are more streamlined and shad-like. But neither rattles or swims well and they tend to turn on their side at high speed. They're now in a box in the garage where loser crankbaits go to die Action and rattle are important so I'm sticking with U.S. and Japanese brands like Lucky Craft, Xcalibur, Strike King, Cordell, and Bill Lewis. I like the new Strike King Red Eye Shad - as advertised, it does shimmy as it sinks so is a good bait for a yo-yo retrieve.
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Old October 5th, 2008
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Re: Alternative Lipless Crankbait Designs?

I would have to agree on the Strike King Red Eye Shad. Started using them a few months ago with great success and caught my all time best bass last week on the Red Eye. It weighed in at 7 lb. 1 oz.
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Old October 6th, 2008
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Re: Alternative Lipless Crankbait Designs?

The Shimano Complex Undulator has a potbelly type of design.....it also has a very wide action for a lipless crank - cool bait worth checking out.









K's Labo also makes a bait with a very exaggerated belly, but I haven't tried that one out yet.


Another bait with a slightly different take is the Air Viper Risebacker.....also one of my favorite lipless vibes in life. They make (made) 3 different sound levels - - silent, low, and high. The silent one is one of my favorites, as it also has a very low fall rate - - great for fishing shallow flats.

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Old October 6th, 2008
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Re: Alternative Lipless Crankbait Designs?

@ LooksLikeSinbad

Here is one of my very early lures made more than 10 years ago after a catalog picture .

If my memory serves me right , the original was a "Mann's" lure called "Pogo Shad" , but I haven't seen it since anymore , suppose , that it was quite short lived .

It still float's up with its tailfin just breaking through the surface , I am sure that the original hangs different or even sinks , never held one in my hands !

I fish it in a jerk-and-pause manner , the offset tail causes it to roll and vibrate at quite a high frequency and it goes down to one foot this way .
It has a hollow chamber inside the center of body with a BB , but since I lacked experience those days , that rattle chamber is not very loud being furnished of wood exclusively .

It is weighted heavily under its chin to stabilize its running , the cross-section is oval with the belly a little fatter than the back .

It is carved out of one piece of light teakwood , but I think to make the shaping easier , one could also screw a metal tail(homemade of aluminium or a fitting Indiana-blade) onto such a lure to achieve the same action , one can maybe even test and/or alter the action by bending the fin to different angles .

I guess a fin set at approx. 90° or even more(pointing forward) would result into a higher frequenzy of moves , but also render the lure more prone to overturning , thus more counterbalance belly weight would be required . Just a matter of trial and error , I haven't bothered for it , since any kind of vibrating lures have not proved success in my local waters , only caught very few fish on such .
Only utilize their noise pattern frequently to call perch to come investigate below the boat , they then would strike on my wife's rod with a small pirk(jigging spoon) attached , hardly on that crank !

Maybe also make ONLY the belly a bit deeper to be able to carry some more weight , guess , that the tail portion has to remain slender to still provide that distinctive roll and vibration .

You can determine about its size by the squared background paper , five squares make up for 1" .

Well , you asked for different shapes , this is one , maybe it could help !

Greetz , diemai
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Re: Alternative Lipless Crankbait Designs?

Name an obscure Japanese crankbait and Stringjam has two of them! String, would you please consider adopting me?
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Re: Alternative Lipless Crankbait Designs?

I too love lipless cranks. I have now TOTALLY changed my search bait from rattle traps to a blank that Mike Vann sells here on the TU site. His lipless rounded shape from Mavrik Lures is now my #1 search bait.

I have several colors I like, but using the blanks with it's pearl finish it comes with is pretty good too. Maverik Lures # 353 falls better than a shimmy shad. He has several others, but try it.
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Old October 6th, 2008
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Re: Alternative Lipless Crankbait Designs?

Thanks everyone for the interesting replies and helpful info.

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I have now TOTALLY changed my search bait from rattle traps to a blank that Mike Vann sells here on the TU site.
What is his website/email?
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Re: Alternative Lipless Crankbait Designs?

He advertises here on TU. m_vann01@yahoo.com
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Re: Alternative Lipless Crankbait Designs?

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Name an obscure Japanese crankbait and Stringjam has two of them! String, would you please consider adopting me?

Actually, I was hoping you would adopt me, Bob......I just want crankbaits for my allowance.
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