[The_Rookie]

Anyone want to share the steps they use to do a factory bait!

I had a problem last week!! Bait peeled on me so now I am worried I have done something wrong earlier in the process! It might just be a bad mix of epoxy or the base coat! Either way I was talkin with Talley a Senior Member and he thought this would be a good thing to post! So we are lookin for..Step by Step ways to paint a factory crankbait..

EXAMPLE!

1. Sand the lure
2. Wipe with Alcohol
3. Shoot with Base coat sealer
4. Paint the darn lure
5. Epoxy it
6. Fish it and pray it catches fish!!

I am talking Factory LURES ONLY!!

I just want to make sure it was a mixing issue and not something stupid I should be doing! Thanks guys!

The_Rookie

[LaPala]

Are u talking plastic lure? What Paint type? Are u using same brand for all layers of paint? Layers dry enough b4 2nd coat; epoxy coat? Etc etc. Lots of issues along the process that will cause adhesion problem.

If plastic lure & lacquer paints, a step that you might want look into would be to shoot a base coat of plastic adhesion promoter (example: DuPont Centari 800R, beware different formulations are made for diff plastics). The adhesion promoter will have surface prep instructions with it and which plastic it's designed for.

I do not think a step by step is suitable as there will be too many variations and it'll depend on what u are using. Maybe u can outline your steps in detail so we can identify where the issue is.

[BobP]

Base coat sealer? What's that, and why would you need it on plastic? I sand, shoot a color base of white acrylic, the colors and then clearcoat. Peeling can sometimes be caused by not drying the base and color coats enough before clearcoating. I flash dry with a hair dryer.

[cranker]

If they are plastic cranks all you should do in my opinion is:
1)clean it good and sand any rough seams
2)spray your primer coat and heatset with a hair dryer
3)spray your colors and heat set with dryer
4)after heatset and cured apply your top coat,in my case 2t devcon,and be sure to cover it real good so water cant get to your paint anywhere
5)let the epoxy cure out and then take it fishing

others may have a better way but this is how I have done them for years and had no problems at all.

[LaPala]

Originally Posted by BobP

Base coat sealer? What's that, and why would you need it on plastic? I sand, shoot a color base of white acrylic, the colors and then clearcoat. Peeling can sometimes be caused by not drying the base and color coats enough before clearcoating. I flash dry with a hair dryer.

It's as it's name sake, an adhesion promoter. Lucky Craft uses it on all thier plastic cranks to enhance paint adhesion to plastic. Think of it as a glue for plastic to paint.

[dampeoples]

Originally Posted by LaPala

It's as it's name sake, an adhesion promoter. Lucky Craft uses it on all thier plastic cranks to enhance paint adhesion to plastic. Think of it as a glue for plastic to paint.

The way the paint comes off my LC's, I'd rather not use that stuff!!

I'm assuming it's some sort of solvent that possibly 'melts' the plastic?

[cheesehead]

It's an etching primer. It "eats" itself into the surface of the plastic thus promoting better adheasion of the top layers.

Never confuse mass produced lures with hand made. We had better be taking the time to do the best we can or we are doing the hobby a gross injustice. If you are having paint issues with their lure it's probably due to lack of topcoat or inferior production standards. Have you filed a complaint with the manufacturer? If we don't they will continue to make crap. Most fabricators don't care about high durability, their main concern is increased sales.

[Blades and Baits]

8 steps and 5 hours of care.
Blades

[The_Rookie]

Thanks for info guys!! Out of 75 lures I only had two peel! Just wanted to make sure I was doing it right... I was trying to find a way around sanding the lure because it hurts the look of it! Sometimes I sand off the built in scales on the plastic! Maybe I am sanding it too much!

[Tally]

Originally Posted by Blades and Baits

8 steps and 5 hours of care.
Blades

did I miss something here???? I seen the master of paint had posted and thought I might learn a trick or two...... I have got to get me some cameras set up in Ila....