[Spike-A-Pike]

How would you make the perfect quick strike rig for Muskies? Most of the quick strike rigs I've seen have all used stiff heavy coated wire.

I would like to try using fluorocarbon. I think I’d use fluorocarbon and start by tying a Snell Knot on the bottom treble hook (size #2/0). Then we have a decision to make about the first hook (to use a single hook or treble hook), I think I would experiment with something like a #1/0 single hook similar to a walleye rig hook. The main fluorocarbon line would go through the eye of the hook. I am tempted to use either wire or heat shrink to keep the hook close to the main line. Heat shrink should allow the hook to be pulled along the fluorocarbon to make the distance longer or shorter between the hooks. There is a start… what would you change to improve it?

I have never tied a quick strike rig before, so any information would be greatly appreciated.

[Zib]

I've been thinking about making my own quick-strike rig out of fluoro myself.

Here's some instruction from In-Fisherman's site:
http://www.in-fisherman.com/magazine...ike/index.html

[Crimson_Death216]

What exactly is a quick strike rig?

[Spike-A-Pike]

Zib.
What a great read on quick strike rigs and options for them making them. While they give no specifics for quick strike rigs with Fluorocarbon line, I don't think I have had enough experience with it to make more than an educated guess, and would start with either a 40 or 50 pound test. My idea is to make it light, flexible, close to invisible.

Orion - A quick strike rig is a bait rig for musky and large pike. Usually used with a 8 to 12 inch sucker minnow, larger if you can find larger suckers.

[philB]

Bruce

Youv'e really got me confused with this one mate. It seems to me that the terminology 'Quick strike rig' refers to what us on this side of the pond know as a 'trace' which is the end link between the mainline and the lure, please correct me if I am wrong. If this is indeed one of the same then I have to say I do not think Fluorocarbon would be a good idea at all as the Fluorocarbons I know are just like a nylon monofilament and will cut through real easy with a Muskie tooth as indeed it would with our northern pike here in the UK, the only material for me is wire, either solid or multistrand.

philB

[philB]

Originally Posted by philB

Bruce

Youv'e really got me confused with this one mate. It seems to me that the terminology 'Quick strike rig' refers to what us on this side of the pond know as a 'trace' which is the end link between the mainline and the lure, please correct me if I am wrong. If this is indeed one of the same then I have to say I do not think Fluorocarbon would be a good idea at all as the Fluorocarbons I know are just like a nylon monofilament and will cut through real easy with a Muskie tooth as indeed it would with our northern pike here in the UK, the only material for me is wire, either solid or multistrand.

philB

Since posting this I read the link (I must look/read more closely at threads). Fluorocarbon is not a good idea. There are new generation wires available now which are wire but as limp as cotton and can be knotted.I will get details and post here.

[philB]

Jeez 3 posts in 10 mins, I'm embarrassed. Anyway here is a link to the wire I refer to Sovereign 49-strand Nova silk wire. This stuff is unbelievable. I only saw it for the first time last week and it really is as limp as cotton. You CAN knot it and loop it and it is indestructible. It does not kink and if it gets twisted or curled you literally grab it between finger and thumb and run them down the length of the trace and the twists and kinks just disappear.

philB

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Phil.
I would say that a trace is very similar to what we call a leader, a method of protecting the last 18 to 24 inches of main line that connects to the hook or lure. The type of leader I'm referring to has a treble hook at the every end of the line, a second treble or "J" hook between the first hook and a swivel, and can slide on the line to very the distance between the two hooks. The latest generation of Fluorocarbons are making some incredible claims making it very tempting to try. The abrasion resistance and the way it disappears in water would almost make it perfect for tying into a big musky.

What do you think Pop?

[philB]

Originally Posted by philB

Jeez 3 posts in 10 mins, I'm embarrassed. Anyway here is a link to the wire I refer to Sovereign 49-strand Nova silk wire. This stuff is unbelievable. I only saw it for the first time last week and it really is as limp as cotton. You CAN knot it and loop it and it is indestructible. It does not kink and if it gets twisted or curled you literally grab it between finger and thumb and run them down the length of the trace and the twists and kinks just disappear.

philB

http://www.sovereignsuperbaits.co.uk...ce_making.html

Link as promised

[Pop]

I don't think Musky is as leader shy as other fish, especially when using live bait. We know they aren't boat shy as many of them hit at the boat, so why would they be leader shy? What philB is talking about sounds like it might be the best option, but; I don't know if you can purchase it here in the states, I have not heard of it before. Will need to do a search. I was thinking about titanium which I understand you can tie just like mono and doesn't kink. (Maybe that is the same as philB is talking about and we just use other terminology) The link to the In-Fisherman article is a great help and really appreciated. I know there is a way to tie the movable hook to your leader as I saw it in a book years ago. My goal is to have these ready for the spring thaw. I'll pass on whatever I find. Pop