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Old August 24th, 2008
 
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stuck ferrule

How do you separate a 2 piece rod that is stuck together at the ferrule?I would appreciate any feed back from members concerning this, as I keep running across this problem lately talking to fellow fisherman who now have unwanted joined one piece rods.They seem to think not taking apart their rods after fishing and being left in a hot car over time caused the situation.
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Old August 25th, 2008
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Re: stuck ferrule

Cold.

Things shrink when they get cold. Rod blanks are hollow tubes and when they shrink due to cold, the outside diameter gets smaller and the inside diameter gets larger.

Use a twisting motion to separate.


Some will tell you to heat the female portion and that's wrong. While the outside diameter does increase, the inside diameter shrinks and you are actually making the joint tighter.
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Old August 26th, 2008
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Re: stuck ferrule

I use 2-piece rods and I have been thinking lately that it is time for someone to invent a better ferrule. One that attaches and detaches quickly and easily without getting stuck or damaging the rod. Maybe a screw on one?

Another thought I had is to create a ferrule that works the same as the current ones, but the outside has a small groove that your thumb would fit in to give you something to grip when turning the 2 pieces. I think a lot of times when they are stuck, the problem is that you can't really hold on to anything because the rod is round and slick, and you don't want to hold on to a guide for leverage.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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Re: stuck ferrule

Don't twist them; you'll break the rod. Here's how you do it.

Take the rod and place it behind your knees and hold it with both hands(each hand on the outside of your knees). Bend your knees slightly and then gripping the rod tightly force your knees outward. Do not pull with your hands, they are only there to hold the rod steady.

I know this sounds a little silly at first read, but give it a try. Works great.

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Re: stuck ferrule

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Don't twist them; you'll break the rod. Here's how you do it.

Take the rod and place it behind your knees and hold it with both hands(each hand on the outside of your knees). Bend your knees slightly and then gripping the rod tightly force your knees outward. Do not pull with your hands, they are only there to hold the rod steady.

I know this sounds a little silly at first read, but give it a try. Works great.

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Thanks Nova for the method , I must admit I have always twisted the the two parts in opposite directions and so far I have been lucky. It is a problem that everyone faces at some time during their fishing career. I think it is the difficulty in gripping the rod tight enough and I have used the neoprene anti slip pads (sold in auto shops for laying on dashboards and the like) with success. With new rods before I even use them I wax the ferrule with good old candle wax, this does not make them loose or slippy but does stop the sticking. I hope I never have to use the 'Nova' method of ferrule extraction.
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Old August 28th, 2008
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Re: stuck ferrule

Thanks Phil. That came from 30 + years of fly fishing and lots of stuck ferrules. An oldtimer showed me that on the river bank one day in the 70's. Never forgot it.

That's what this sport/hobby is all about; passing on the infromation. I'll never understand the folks who say "I know a secret you don't know".lol

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Come on Nova we've got to have a video demonstration from you
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With or without clothes; lol.

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Well Nova whatever takes ya fancy
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Phil; you talk like my wife. She lived in London in the late 60's early 70's. (army brat)

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