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Old June 30th, 2008
 
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Re: POP vs Durham Water Putty

are these type molds suitable to pour lead in? i.e., i'd like to make a custom spinnerbait mold. thanks in advance for any tips shared!
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Re: POP vs Durham Water Putty

POP - I've never tried DAP water putty, so can't help you out there. But I bet DAP is pretty much the same thing as DWP. For those who have not tried DWP, its looks, handles, and pours EXACTLY like PoP. The differences are DWP is a very pale yellow, takes 2x-3x longer to set (big bonus in my book), and once completely dry, is somewhat harder than PoP (more durable).

msj21xd - I've never tried casting lead using molds made from POP or DWP. Maybe others here will know if this is possible. I've read elsewhere that it can be done but the mold has a fairly short life-span due to the much higher heat associated with molten lead. I've heard after many pourings of lead that the PoP mold starts to deteriorate to the point that its useless. Maybe DWP might perform better than PoP at casting lead... dunno. Its also my guess that you would not need to seal the mold. I'd think that hot lead would totally and instantly wreck either Elmers or epoxy sealants. Farthermore, if the unsealed mold surfaces are smooth, as they should be if you do a good job of pouring, that lead would not stick to them like plastics will. And last, be absolutely certain that your mold is totally and utterly bone dry before attempting to pour lead.

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Old June 30th, 2008
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Re: POP vs Durham Water Putty

Just clarify what HJS said above:

Hot molten lead will explode when it comes in contact with Water!!!

When adding solid lead to molten lead, BE ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE THERE IS NO MOISTURE HIDDEN OR IN PLAIN VIEW ON THE LEAD; IT WILL EXPLODE!!!
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Re: POP vs Durham Water Putty

thanks for the replies. i'm not too concerned with longevity of the mold. if i can get 100, or so, i'm very satisified, for i'm only wanting to duplicate an existing head for my own personal use - not wanting to mass produce to sell. again, thanks!
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Re: POP vs Durham Water Putty

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are these type molds suitable to pour lead in? i.e., i'd like to make a custom spinnerbait mold. thanks in advance for any tips shared!
Yes, I hardened the Pop with white glue in the mix. Baked it dry, very dry no moisture can be present when casting lead. I made a 2 oz. bullet sinker to include a SS metal pin to make the line hole. I did a little math to predict the size and volumn verses weight to make a proper size cone out of clay for the model on the density of lead. I use a bullet metal casting furnace and just used wheel weights. Filling the mould partial up can make lighter weight sinkers but of course they have the same ojive, they are just shorter.

As you can see I just joined and learned sooo much from TU. I have been fishng all my life and years ago started copying with Pop soft plastics; so I was thrilled to find this forum much better ideas. I am a fanatical fisherman but this past few years has saddled me with responsibiliies and health problems that has made more time for dreaming about it than doing it. So I decided to to vent my frustration by again starting DIY tackle and rod projects. I had already gotten involved in making custom and high powered portable lighting, flashlights, from joining another forum. This one looks freindly. This is my first post here. Hi all!

I recently found a jerk bait pattern that was outstanding on northern pike. I found this site while looking for more of this slightly peculiar pattern. I cannot find the product anymore, Creek Town Pro Series , maybe they are out of business. I do not think I can live without a this new to me pattern so I decided to copy it, I have 4 left. It is much like a bass assasin but has a very long flimsy tail shank and end is a flat splayed forked tail.
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Re: POP vs Durham Water Putty

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