I need some help with powder paint

sagacious · #1 (**permalink**) July 7th, 2008

I've got a whole heap of powder paint questions that hopefully you pros out there can help me with.

First, what do you guys feel is the brightest, most silvery chrome powder paint available? Right now I'm using Caswell's "extreme chrome", and while it has it's benefits, the result I get is more of a 'pewter', and not quite as silvery as I'd like to have. Since shiny objects are notoriously difficult to photograph with any accuracy, I can't get a good idea what the brightest chrome powder is from looking at pics on the web-- they all look the same to me. Is this as good as it gets? Do I need to apply a black undercoat, or do any other prep-work to brighten the color? Any tricks I'm missing?

Next, who has the best knock-your-socks-off glow powder paint? I have been using super-glow vinyl paint for years, but fishing heavy jigs on these Northern California rocky reefs takes a toll on vinyl paint. The super-glow vinyl gives me the light show I want, but not the durability I'd like-- is there a powder paint that will do the same? Can I add additional glow pigment to a glow powder to enhance the glow? How about multiple coats? Any advice appreciated!

Orange. I'd like to get my hands on some of the hottest, brightest, fluoro orange powder. Not just any orange, but "you'll need sunglasses to look at it" orange. Candy colors look bright, but they don't give me what I want. I'm undercoating with white pearl, is plain white-- or another color such as yellow-- a better undercoat? I use a clear powder overcoat, and that helps intensify some colors and give me the 'depth' I want. Who's got the hottest fluoro orange, and how do I get the best out of it?

I also need a really intense fluoro green. Again, candy colors aren't giving me the intensity I need. Maybe I'm using them wrong. How do I get the most out of candy colors?

Next is purple. I need a metallic purple (maybe a metallic sparkle purple?) that has a lot of color, but a lot of brightness to it. Not a dark, opaque, lifeless "liver" purple, but a purple you'd put on your racecar. Something with a lot of life and depth to it. What's the best undercoat, and where can I get something like this? Is the type of the paint (poly, epoxy) something to consider here?

LOL! I'm way over my bag-limit on questions! I realize these are not your standard bass jig colors, but I know that some of you guys have a wealth of experience with powder paint-- and hopefully with these colors. If I haven't provided enough info, just let me know what you need. Any help or powder painting tricks will be much appreciated.

Thanks a million!
sagacious

kelly · #2 (**permalink**) July 7th, 2008

The only thing I can help with is the glow powder paint. Pro tec super glow is my favorite glow powder paint. Dip white then the color. Others like to use the same color as a base then use the colored glow over that. It will be a preference. On the silver I wish you luck and hope cadman can save us. I have not found one I like.

hawnjigs · #3 (**permalink**) July 8th, 2008

Never powder painted and haven't liquid painted for years, but...has anyone tried LureCraft's "Super Highlight Luster Pigments" in their epoxy top coats? This might be a powder grade of Hagen's "Crystallina" fine glitter which I really liked for chameleon color change flash effects, and might enhance the candy coats without obscuring them.

edit: for those unfamiliar with this type of glitter it wets out transparent and is very different from the foil types which have a peppery effect on the underlying color.

reeves · #4 (**permalink**) July 8th, 2008

Wow Sagacious, you really are on a different color wheel than the one I spin. I was really anxious to offer some assistance here until I read the colors you are after. I do like Caswell's powder and they have some super colors, but I'm sure you have already researched there. Tiger Drylac is another company that has some brilliant colors. I am going to have to pass at this point. Cadman will have to bail us out on this one and I know he will offer some good info as he has dealt with many many powder manufacturers.

Like Kelly stated, I believe a white base coat is required for all flourescent colors.
Good luck, the answer will come.
George

sagacious · #5 (**permalink**) July 8th, 2008

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Originally Posted by kelly

The only thing I can help with is the glow powder paint. Pro tec super glow is my favorite glow powder paint. Dip white then the color.
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Kelly,
Thank you, I'll check on the Pro-tec super glow. What size containers is it sold in, and where are you buying it?

sagacious · #6 (**permalink**) July 8th, 2008

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Originally Posted by hawnjigs

...has anyone tried LureCraft's "Super Highlight Luster Pigments" in their epoxy top coats?
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Don't have the super hi-lite stuff, but I have used the regular hi-lites in epoxy top coats. Looks great.

sagacious · #7 (**permalink**) July 8th, 2008

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Originally Posted by reeves

Wow Sagacious, you really are on a different color wheel than the one I spin. I was really anxious to offer some assistance here until I read the colors you are after. I do like Caswell's powder and they have some super colors, but I'm sure you have already researched there. Tiger Drylac is another company that has some brilliant colors. I am going to have to pass at this point. Cadman will have to bail us out on this one and I know he will offer some good info as he has dealt with many many powder manufacturers.

Like Kelly stated, I believe a white base coat is required for all flourescent colors.
Good luck, the answer will come.
George

George, thanks for your response. It's nice to have folks step up to lend a hand. I just had a look at the Tiger Coatings site, and some of their colors sound good, like 'purple metallic', but I can't seem to find their color samples (examples). I'm confused by so many different "chrome" colors; they've got a whole passel of 'silvers'. I'll send them an email.

cadman · #8 (**permalink**) July 8th, 2008

Sagacious,
Give me to the end of today, and I will try to answer some questions for you, I was out last night and didn't read the thread until this morning.

Fatman · #9 (**permalink**) July 8th, 2008

Look out ordering Lure Crafts Poly Sil paint,

"Shipping Information Due to the high flammability of Poly-Sil paint, it is considered a hazardous material by the U.S. Department of Transportation. Due to this fact, Poly-Sil paint and thinner cannot be shipped by air. A per package hazardous shipping fee of $20.00 is charged by the shipping companies. This fee must be included with your order. Please bear with us as shipping regulations may change without notice. ADD HAZMAT LINE ITEM TO YOUR ORDER FOR HAZARDOUS SHIPPING COST. Catalyst only does NOT require the fee. "

If you want to spend the extra $20 bucks that's up to you. I use testors model paint then clear epoxy coat with the stuff from Janns Netcraft.

Fatman

kelly · #10 (**permalink**) July 8th, 2008

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Originally Posted by sagacious

Kelly,
Thank you, I'll check on the Pro-tec super glow. What size containers is it sold in, and where are you buying it?

The manufacture is component systems. I have purchased it at cabelas and barlows but the best place to buy it would be at TJs tackle (dayooper) on this site. It says it glows up to 16 hours. Have not tested just my favorite. TJs will sell it in 2oz 4oz or 1# for a fair price.