[rsinyard]

Hey guys,

I have been working on an idea and haven't come up with anything decent and thought I would throw it out to you for suggestions. I am trying to create a texture like the copper or silver vein with blue or red. I contacted one of my local powder coaters and they said it could be done but I would have to order like 500 pounds for this special order. Have any of you guys tried this?

[psv]

rsinyard
Check this thread.
Copper, Silver, Gold Vein Powder Paint

Also Columbia has couple "wein type" powders. Here is the link:
Columbia Coatings


Hope, it helps.
Regards, PSV

[cadman]

Ron,
I have a lot of sources for you, and some more info on this. I will post the info later, as I'm headed off to work right now. Talk to you later.............

[mpashnt1]

Try this site. I have used their paints with good success.

Caswell Inc. - Indoor, Metallic, Candy, RAL and High Temperature Powder Coatings

[rsinyard]

I talked to Columbia Coatings. They are one of the best places close to me. They told me that most people but a base coat of the silver vein then use a translucent on top. I am looking for something like the attached picture but instead of the silver I want red or blue. I haven't gotten the desired results in trying to mix red and blue with black.

Thanks guys.

[cadman]

Ron,
I have been experimenting with textured finishes for quite awhile. These finishes are not your gold or silver vein colors. This is actual textured powder made for that purpose. Currently I have 3 beige colors, all a different shade, and a smoke which is gray. I currently purchased several hundred pounds of each, which in a month or so I’m going to offer this to TU members. I have to straighten out the shipping cost first. What I have found on these powders is that you can’t burn them (Unless you light them with a match), you can’t over bake them, and best of all they cover very well with very little chance for error. Also you can’t tell if you put too much on because the final baked item has a sandy pebbly finish. If you don’t like the pebbly feel, you can clear coat it. Now on the textured powder, I have found some interesting things, when I add different color to it. What you will get is a spotted or speckled finish. If you put a 1:2 ratio of red to beige, you will never get one solid color of beigey red. What you will get is a red, beige speckled finish. I’ve tried this with all the beige colors I have and the smoke color. It really has a unique affect. I’ve not had the time to mix 3 or 4 colors to see what happens, as I have many other color powders to evaluate and test, but the outcome looks very promising.
Now on your silver and gold vein, that color if you add red or blue, will not give you the red vein or the blue vein. That pigment has to be mixed with a formula. And Columbia is right, they can make you anything but; they are not going to custom mix 2 lbs of powder. It would be interesting to see if you do take a silver vein, and mix some red into it, to see if you get the red to stand out in the black or in the silver. I’m curious as what the outcome would be. I will tell you one thing, and Columbia is right you must clear coat all the vein colors. Because the color will eventually rub off or lose its luster especially the silver. We use it here, and a clear coat is a must. Finally, based on your picture, that you posted, that finish looks more like a hammer tone finish than a vein finish. The hammer tones aren’t that easy to apply, they do need a bigger surface to get the effect, and if not put on evenly, the hammer tone finish has a tendency to look more concentrated in one area, giving it the appearance of too much texture on one side and not enough on another side.
I know this probably doesn’t answer your question, but these are some of the things that I have found out with the hundreds of paints I’ve used.
Ron all your vein powder and hammer tones are available at almost all major powder companies. I know there is a list I posted out here that has at least 100 reputable companies. To name a few, Columbia Coatings, Dupont, Sherwin Williams, Tiger Drylac, IVC, Spraylat etc…………look on the sheet for the rest. If you want to throw some more ideas around, you can PM me, and we can discuss this further……….Ted

[rsinyard]

Thanks Ted. Your post helps me explain in more detail. I am looking for the texture feel like you talked about. What I would like is a black base coat with a red or blue pebbly feel. I use the term vein because that is the look I am going for. How does the textured powder work? Does it give you a raised look or does it go on smooth like normal powder? I hope this makes more sense.

[cadman]

Ron,
The powder paint has a raised look and feel to it. It looks and feels like someone put sand on the jig.