BIG RAY, I saw the responses. I didn't get the 80 grit I got 40/70 grit. Looks pretty fine. 6 lb jar of it. I have not tried it yet, but I cant wait. No salt = less colorant is what I am guessing. I use Lure works soft plastic, it is not as soft as LC but I have been using for a while and great results. I had my softener figured out with salt. I have a hand pour stick bait mold I will try a small batch with some left over plastic. Thanks to all and their responses.