Ill give my 2 cents worth on this with very high respect to the guys who have been doing this long before i even tried it. I had come in here just to learn from you guys to pour some baits, I was having a blast asking some of you mentioned above and how to make things and colors work. But then by chance I have also been trying to make a bait work and still cant figure it out and yes its probably simple and im trying to thing to hard, But I then turned to someone in the manufacturing business and asked about making a design and yes a few months later I seen my bait on the internet and I was pissed. So for the few of you I am willing to share what I am trying to do and have fun with, because if I cant get it right I know with the knowledge yall have its probably simple. So did I get a sour taste in my mouth about the big boys copying it... absolutely, but they sure didnt like me calling them up and saying hey whats up with that. simple phone call turned into a person on the other end saying "make more Ill copy that also. So i just said heck with them. I need help from a few of you guys to make something and Im willing to share what it is, just ask and help me get it done. I didnt come on here to make millions i just came on here to have fun and to learn, But when you have an idea it does suck seeing someone profit off your hard work, and they have alot more money than I do. so I have come to the conclusion of having some of you help me if you will.