They are do it molds , they do produce a duller bait indeed , not happy with that at all, my machined aluminum molds produce a much nicer finish, the only do it mold I’m ok with is the senko mold, I’ll just scratch these molds and move on to nice machined aluminums , I’ve wasted to much time dealing with these , lesson learned , I do appreciate all the help and answers to my issues guys , thank you !