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So I just got my first gallon of Dead On, and I don't have any problem with viscosity, but the bubbles are intense. There is more air than plastic. I'm using black label saltwater and stirring with a stainless steel butter knife in a pyrex cup, using a microwave. The pic is after 60 seconds in the microwave before I've even stirred it, it only gets worse after I do. The bubbles aren't just on top, they're suspended throughout the plastisol. It's also very vecloudy, which may be due to the bubbles? It sets up fine but the appearance is awful.

Prior to this I was using baitplastics and never saw anything like this.

 

 

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That is normal just put it in a vacuum chamber before you heat and it will take all that out before you heat. A lot of plastic does that. Some bad some not so bad. 

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On 3/22/2021 at 1:47 PM, Apdriver said:

Thank You, Bryan. Basskat seems to be happy with it too. I’ll be ordering soon.

As a 'newbie' with only a years experience I have found Bait Plastics to be very good and user friendly. They have about 8 different harnesses. You can get a sampler pack for $20. I like the #242 and a gallon is $39.99 with free shipping.

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On 4/11/2021 at 1:52 PM, BTL said:

So I just got my first gallon of Dead On, and I don't have any problem with viscosity, but the bubbles are intense. There is more air than plastic. I'm using black label saltwater and stirring with a stainless steel butter knife in a pyrex cup, using a microwave. The pic is after 60 seconds in the microwave before I've even stirred it, it only gets worse after I do. The bubbles aren't just on top, they're suspended throughout the plastisol. It's also very vecloudy, which may be due to the bubbles? It sets up fine but the appearance is awful.

Prior to this I was using baitplastics and never saw anything like this.

 

 

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I just bought my first gallon from Dead On. Same problem. I've been pouring for around 30 years and never had this.No matter how careful I am my baits are loaded with bubbles.

I also find it takes my baits a lot longer to cure than other brands I've used.

 A friend went the same route and just bought his first gallon of Dead on as well. Same issue, More bubbles than fine champagne. Ended up going to MF.

Back to MF plastisol for me too. I'm pretty sure an average hobby bait maker like myself, doesn't need a vacuum chamber, or the expense of one. I'll spend the extra $20 or so, and use the left over money from not buying a vacuum chamber for more fishing stuff.

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On 4/20/2021 at 7:22 PM, Tiderunner said:

I just bought my first gallon from Dead On. Same problem. I've been pouring for around 30 years and never had this.No matter how careful I am my baits are loaded with bubbles.

I also find it takes my baits a lot longer to cure than other brands I've used.

 A friend went the same route and just bought his first gallon of Dead on as well. Same issue, More bubbles than fine champagne. Ended up going to MF.

Back to MF plastisol for me too. I'm pretty sure an average hobby bait maker like myself, doesn't need a vacuum chamber, or the expense of one. I'll spend the extra $20 or so, and use the left over money from not buying a vacuum chamber for more fishing stuff.

I'm glad it's not just me. 

DOP gets rave reviews from most people and sells out as quickly as they stock up. It's nothing but air and yellow plastic for me. Not even sure what to do with it. I don't understand what the difference is between experiences, I know not everyone is degassing it.

I really want to try some MF, but the price does kinda scare me off. Very intrigued by easy stretch.

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So I got to admit I tried the DOP.

The fanboys over on the DOP FaceBook page do nothing but rave about it.

Well I bought the Finesse blend for some small ice baits and was very unhappy with it. No matter how long I waited or cooled the molds the legs on most small creatures came out deformed and they stayed "sticky" and would not cure. Coarse the answer they had was, you must not have stirred, shaken or blended it enough. I had. Well then you must not have heated it enough, I had. Well then you must have heated it to much, I had not. Well you should buy a vac chamber, I have one. Then I got to looking at the bottles after it had sat for some time and it was obvious that they had not mixed the drum enough before they put it in the bottles. I mixed the 3 bottles together and sorta got it to work.

Time to go back to MF.

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Well honestly this always happens to repackagers. Buy from a company that makes it and at least one extra hand is not in the mix. Mf, Spikeit Lurecraft and baitplastics(poly sol) make it so less of a chance for mistakes. Over the years I have used many gallons of plastic and really never had a problem with any. But I came from an industry that needs to make sure everything is mixed well. I say well and to others there well is not good enough. 90% of all problems are user errors. I know some don’t like to her that but it’s true. When you resell it you have to deal with those kind of issues. Stick with what you are comfortable with and your mind will be at ease. I saved enough money buying my first drum from a company that needs to be vacumned to buy a vacuum and still have it to this day. Many years later. 

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Due to the immensely rising shipping costs of my 30 year supplier ($56 per 5 gallons) and all the hype of the DOP, I decided to purchase the DOP Black Label Finesse blend and at least for me it was not a desirable plastic. Not clear, a bunch of micro bubbles and very very sticky baits. It was well mixed and heated to 365deg.  I do not use a microwave, I just let my pots heat it. I will say this....its inexpensive that's for sure. I use 35-55 gallons a season and was looking forward to saving a few bucks on this raved about plastic.....a let down for sure.

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