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You should check out Engineered Angler's videos on YouTube about chrome. He tests several different products and clear coats.  Outside of silver plating with a duplex gun, most chrome sprays will dull some. His best spray chrome results seem to come by painting a black base coat, applying a smooth clear coat to the black (the smoother the surface the better), then he sprays the chrome spray product, followed by dipping in floor wax (Pledge Floor Care Finish) for a mid-coat before finishing the paint job and final clear. He has several videos on it. Some are listed below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uo0fyo99G0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-JfyKYWYGg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z_jF8EdWCA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Eb_XElOUA4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k3WpdbJTnA

 

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ALL Chrome paints will dull when cleared. 

Why? Because a chrome paint when viewed from the side looks like a forest. A clearcoat fills in between the tree tops and it doesn't reflect as much light in the vertical spectrum. 

 

Short of a vapor deposition type finish there doesn't exist a perfect chrome finish. Real chrome excluded. 

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On 11/1/2021 at 7:04 PM, Salty's said:

ALL Chrome paints will dull when cleared. 

Why? Because a chrome paint when viewed from the side looks like a forest. A clearcoat fills in between the tree tops and it doesn't reflect as much light in the vertical spectrum. 

 

Short of a vapor deposition type finish there doesn't exist a perfect chrome finish. Real chrome excluded. 

6 months ago, I would have agreed.  But, after trying some of the mirror paints I learned about from Engineered Angler, and using the floor wax he recommended, it worked, and worked very well.

I am eating crow now, and in truth, loving it.

 

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15 hours ago, Anglinarcher said:

6 months ago, I would have agreed.  But, after trying some of the mirror paints I learned about from Engineered Angler, and using the floor wax he recommended, it worked, and worked very well.

I am eating crow now, and in truth, loving it.

 

I can't find that floor wax.  Which one did you use?

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The original Pledge is the gold standard, but they put cleaners in it now that prevent it from working as well.

The Createx intercoat or clear works well also.

I am using the below stuff from Home Depot.  It is white in the bottle but in about 15 minutes it is completely dry and clear.  It is not a "top coat" but works very well as an intercoat.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/QUICK-SHINE-64-oz-Floor-Finish-51590/203488484

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2 hours ago, Anglinarcher said:

The original Pledge is the gold standard, but they put cleaners in it now that prevent it from working as well.

The Createx intercoat or clear works well also.

I am using the below stuff from Home Depot.  It is white in the bottle but in about 15 minutes it is completely dry and clear.  It is not a "top coat" but works very well as an intercoat.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/QUICK-SHINE-64-oz-Floor-Finish-51590/203488484

Thank you.

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On 11/3/2021 at 5:32 PM, Anglinarcher said:

The original Pledge is the gold standard, but they put cleaners in it now that prevent it from working as well.

The Createx intercoat or clear works well also.

I am using the below stuff from Home Depot.  It is white in the bottle but in about 15 minutes it is completely dry and clear.  It is not a "top coat" but works very well as an intercoat.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/QUICK-SHINE-64-oz-Floor-Finish-51590/203488484

Are you spraying this or do you dip the lure?

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22 hours ago, Anglinarcher said:

I have done both, but I tend to just dip and hang.  Takes less time and works for my needs.

I got my HD wax yesterday, and I painted a sample board yesterday and coated it with the wax today.  It looks much better than anything else I've tried, so I repainted an older bait with Rustoleum Mirror Chrome today.  I'll wax it tomorrow, and let you know how it comes out.

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20 hours ago, mark poulson said:

I got my HD wax yesterday, and I painted a sample board yesterday and coated it with the wax today.  It looks much better than anything else I've tried, so I repainted an older bait with Rustoleum Mirror Chrome today.  I'll wax it tomorrow, and let you know how it comes out.

I waxed one side of the bait this morning, so I could compare it to the unwaxed side, and I can't tell the difference.  I'm going back out to the garage now to wax the other side, and the bottom.

Can I paint/topcoat directly over the wax, or do I need some kind of a binder coat?

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In the comments to one of Engineered Angler’s videos, he says:

"The acrylic in the floor wax is super hard and most paints stick to it really well."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZSHv0qKk88&list=PLEVBv_zywucTYrW8i-BqXBWZMdqoc6PnJ&index=17

I do believe I saw where he said to let the chrome dry overnight before dipping in the wax. I have seen him use transparent paint, UV clear resin, and tinted UV resin right on the wax after it cured for a couple of hours.

Thanks for keeping us updated.

 

I have been checking to see if I can still find the Pledge Floor Care Multi-Surface Finish in stores. I swear I saw some on a store shelf somewhere recently.  It has been discontinued. There is a clear shot of the old product label at 4:56 in the following video if anyone is trying to still find it in stores.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-JfyKYWYGg&t=295s

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 I don't think the topcoat will matter as long as the wax mid coat is used. As Anglingarcher said, the key is using a wax that does not have cleaners in it.

KBS was asked about by someone in the comments. He said

" The best results are from using the floor wax but...it still becomes slightly dull. To answer your question, yes you can coat it with KBS over the floor wax."

 

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