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Plan on starting soft plastics in the future and some ideas involve floating baits, but I don’t see many on the market. 

How do you make them float and does it affect the durability of the bait? 

can you use micro balloons?

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To my knowledge all plastisol baits float.  Its the addition of salt/glass beads or your hook/weight that makes them sink.  But with that said - usually a hook is enough to make any normal bait sink.

You can do a few things if you want to make them float... yes microballons are one option and a few places sell them to be added to plastisol.  You'll have to test bait volume vs amount of microballons vs hook weight to get the desired effect.  I can't speak to how much you'd need to float a bait with a hook or durability, but I've heard it will effect your colors.

Another option is adding air pockets - if you see people doing core shots - think of doing the same with a smaller diameter rod and not shooting a second shot.  Air works damn good to keep a bait up!!!  But this adds some complexity in either the mold or rigging at times.

I have played with air pockets quiet a bit and can tell you to make a bait float with a hook in it and the weight of the line on it is tough... you have to make a pretty damn big bait as a decent size hook adds alot of weight to suspend and if you use floro for line - that makes it even tougher.

 Hope that helps a bit.

 J.

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49 minutes ago, SlowFISH said:

To my knowledge all plastisol baits float.  Its the addition of salt/glass beads or your hook/weight that makes them sink.  But with that said - usually a hook is enough to make any normal bait sink.

You can do a few things if you want to make them float... yes microballons are one option and a few places sell them to be added to plastisol.  You'll have to test bait volume vs amount of microballons vs hook weight to get the desired effect.  I can't speak to how much you'd need to float a bait with a hook or durability, but I've heard it will effect your colors.

Another option is adding air pockets - if you see people doing core shots - think of doing the same with a smaller diameter rod and not shooting a second shot.  Air works damn good to keep a bait up!!!  But this adds some complexity in either the mold or rigging at times.

I have played with air pockets quiet a bit and can tell you to make a bait float with a hook in it and the weight of the line on it is tough... you have to make a pretty damn big bait as a decent size hook adds alot of weight to suspend and if you use floro for line - that makes it even tougher.

 Hope that helps a bit.

 J.

great info thank you.
 

Do you think I would find anything on YouTube for air bubbles?

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FYI Be very careful if you use the glass micro bubbles. Wear a mask as you DO NOT want to breathe/inhale this product. A friend tried them and as mentioned, they do alter the color of the plastic and you have to use a lot of tin order to float a book. IMO , not worth the trouble. YMMV

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I got started with floating plastics some 30 years ago, when Berkley did away with their floating power worms. We used these to skip across fields of lily pads, and other surface weeds. Deadly method!

First off you'll need to use floating plastic. Take your pick of brands. I do use the glass bubble stuff with extra care. Still haven't inhaled any after all these years. I'm more worried abut burning myself with molten plastic.

If you don't use floating plastic you.ll need to use even more bubbles  A Lot More!

Of course because you've used the bubbles, you'll need to use softener to make your bait more flexible, and heat stabilizer because this thick plastic mix will scorch easily.

And of course because your bubbles are white you'll need to use a lot more color.. The only colors I've made are chartreuse, pink, white and black. Certain colors work in different areas I fish.

The to fish the lily pads you.ll need a light wire hook. I use Gamakatsu wide gap no bigger than 2/0  And for line you need to use braid as the worms are too light to throw with mono, and mono sinks.  This is my way of fishing topwater. Your ways may be different.

Before this season is over I will be experimenting with making the bulb end of Neko worms float, and floating claws on crayfish. Again to be fished Neko for smallmouth.

The floating worms are rigged Tex-posed.

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Mister Twister made the first floating worms I had ever seen in the late 1970's .

They were extremely soft and spongy baits with a twister tail that tore apart easily .

If you tore one in half the plastic was full of tiny bubbles molded into the plastic . They quit making them and I had heard it was because of something that was toxic (or not "environmentally friendly "they added to the plastic to produce the bubbles.

I have often wondered just what that was they were using . 

 

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I've used the floatant material from baitplastics at a 25% ratio for skirts that i wanted to faler out when at rest & it worked great. I also used them in stick worms & they worked great. I did have to add more colorant because it bleaches out the color but that's easy enough to do. 

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I have used the floating additive, micro beads, with mixed results. I found it was very temperamental to work with. I also discovered that frogs would sink after being used a few times, I also noted that reheating the plastic would cause the plastic to sink. I am wondering if the new plastics I have seen advertised as floating, really do work.

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