LakeSideMolds Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 (edited) I'm working on a new 4 1/2 inch worm mold that I will be machining and offering for sale on our site and wanted to get some input on suggested changes. ( see attached drawing screen shot ) The diameter of the worm body will be just a tad over 1/4" ( .28" to be exact ) In this mold I'm going to include a second port for making just the tail sections. ( good idea.... or bad? ) Thanks for any input or suggested changes.... Thanks, Kent Lakeside Molds Nisswa, MN www.lakesidemolds.com Edited March 11 by LakeSideMolds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basscatlildave Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 I like the idea of having a tail mold made with the main mold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 Yes, definetly like the included tail mold. No extra mold to buy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0MRAD Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 The tail and worm body look like they need a better connection point. A butt joint isn't a great connection, and the tail may fall off during normal use. Something protruding from the tail that the worm body can wrap around to create a mechanical connection would be much better. Otherwise, the worm looks good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeSideMolds Posted March 11 Author Report Share Posted March 11 Thanks guys... Yes, I agree Comrad on that tail connection point.... I'll do some work on that.. The outside diameter of each ring is .28" So maybe 2 or 3 rings on the tail connection that are in the .18" OD which should allow enough material to wrap around it.. Is this kind of what you had in mind? ( see pic below ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0MRAD Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 Yes! That looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miamisheriff Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 I would buy some of those molds if the price was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 That looks like it would be a great finesse worm. Thanks for sharing it with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeSideMolds Posted March 15 Author Report Share Posted March 15 Thank You Apdriver... On that note, would you recommend me adding that word "finesse" to my description on my website listing? I was struggling a bit as far as the proper name for this worm mold. Thanks, Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 It may get you more hits from search engines. Sure like the tail mold integrated in the mold. Very innovative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miamisheriff Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 To rich for my blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0MRAD Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 5 cavity worm mold plus a 10 cavity tail mold... the price seems competitive to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0MRAD Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 The more I look at it, the more expensive I think that mold should be. The polished surfaces, beveled edges, and engraving make for a premium mold. Kent, may I ask what cnc mill you made that with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeSideMolds Posted March 16 Author Report Share Posted March 16 Thanks for your feedback... This mold does have a lot of tight corners which results in a lot of machining time. This mold takes about 2 1/2 hours to machine and it takes 18 separate end mill tools.. so its kind of a spending process. You asked about the CNC mill I'm using. For this mold I'm using a Haas DM-2 with a 15,000 RPM spindle motor. The machine weights around 5,000 LB I've been really happy with the machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miamisheriff Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 When did TU become an advertising forum? I thought this forum was about DIY bait making. Years ago posters were banned for advertising here. I visit to learn and share info, not to see an advertisement about a companies attempt at selling an unwanted product to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 'When did TU become an advertising forum? I thought this forum was about DIY bait making. Years ago posters were banned for advertising here. I visit to learn and share info, not to see an advertisement about a companies attempt at selling an unwanted product to me. ' I reported this post when it first appeared, and again when it dropped the ruse and went into full sales mode. I know the mods are usually on top of dross like this, but this one seems to have slipped through. LSM joined 2 years ago, so it is a safe assumption that they know the rules and just decided to flaunt them! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeSideMolds Posted March 17 Author Report Share Posted March 17 (edited) Hi Guys, When I started designing molds several years ago I use to design them with what I thought they should look like, and I quickly found out that it's best to ask the people that actually use them. otherwise I found myself spending all that time on design only to later make a bunch of changes to the mold that should have been there from the start. That was my intentions here. The great suggestion that Comrad made for the tail connection got implemented into the final design. I probably should not have put the link in the post, but I wanted to avoid going through the whole process of folks direct messaging me because I don't keep up on checking these as often as I should. I attempted to edit the post on Sunday to remove the link, but it won't let me remove the link, so I deleted that section of the post and the pictures of the finished mold. Thanks, Kent Edited March 17 by LakeSideMolds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 On 3/15/2025 at 9:31 PM, C0MRAD said: 5 cavity worm mold plus a 10 cavity tail mold... the price seems competitive to me. I agree! Look at the Bloodline swimbait mold a 2 cavity with included bloodline is more expensive. As is the 10 cavity Ice Preybait with included tail mold. I know as I own both of those. Both from different manufacturers and both at a higher price point. Yet cheaper than 2 molds sold separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 I don’t think there has been a moderator since lpo bought it and Curt Snow left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miamisheriff Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 10 hours ago, LakeSideMolds said: Hi Guys, When I started designing molds several years ago I use to design them with what I thought they should look like, and I quickly found out that it's best to ask the people that actually use them. otherwise I found myself spending all that time on design only to later make a bunch of changes to the mold that should have been there from the start. That was my intentions here. The great suggestion that Comrad made for the tail connection got implemented into the final design. I probably should not have put the link in the post, but I wanted to avoid going through the whole process of folks direct messaging me because I don't keep up on checking these as often as I should. I attempted to edit the post on Sunday to remove the link, but it won't let me remove the link, so I deleted that section of the post and the pictures of the finished mold. Thanks, Kent Kent, I hate to tell you this, but you choose a bad business to get into now. The market is flooded with competition, both from domestic and foreign mold makers, aluminum prices are on the rise and over all demand for molds is way down from where it was even 2 years ago. I've been in this business for over 20 years and I have never seen it as bad as it now. I wish you good luck and I would like to suggest that you have a back up line of work to fall on to pay your bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 4 hours ago, Jig Man said: I don’t think there has been a moderator since lpo bought it and Curt Snow left. Oh dear, now we're in trouble! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miamisheriff Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 5 hours ago, Jig Man said: I don’t think there has been a moderator since lpo bought it and Curt Snow left. I think the world will still keep turning without Mr. Curt being on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 6 hours ago, Miamisheriff said: Kent, I hate to tell you this, but you choose a bad business to get into now. The market is flooded with competition, both from domestic and foreign mold makers, aluminum prices are on the rise and over all demand for molds is way down from where it was even 2 years ago. I've been in this business for over 20 years and I have never seen it as bad as it now. I wish you good luck and I would like to suggest that you have a back up line of work to fall on to pay your bills. Maybe you didn't know this but, I've been buying molds from lakeside molds for several years now. So he is not exactly brand new to this business. He also makes some unique and popular lead molds. Including all the required wire and plastic inserts for said molds. I own several of his lead and at least one of his soft plastic molds. All are top quality. I'm not defending him just pointing out some facts you might not know. I'd worry about my own business and not worry so much about whether or not someone else's business fails! I'd say the tackle market is flooded but, some guys still make money selling their handcrafted stuff. I don't sell so the market fluctuations don't bother me at all. But, I do like having lots of options on mold designs from different manufacturers and seeing what they come up with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miamisheriff Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 15 hours ago, Kasilofchrisn said: I'm not defending him just pointing out some facts you might not know. I'd worry about my own business and not worry so much about whether or not someone else's business fails! I couldn't care less about that guys business. I just laid out some cold hard facts about the current market conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 5 hours ago, Miamisheriff said: I couldn't care less about that guys business. I just laid out some cold hard facts about the current market conditions. Then why even mention it? What does any of that have to do with the design of a finesse worm mold? Curious minds want to know! Eriously I'm not trying to start anything, but, it seems that's what you are after. I appreciate it when mold makers ask me for advice. I know what I like and what works for me. Which can be invaluable to the mold makers and makes a better product for me to buy. I appreciate the vendors on here. Another good example is when a guy asks about a specific lead mold fitting a certain hook. Barlows has gotten involved in those threads and tested hooks in molds for people that way many times. Tight lines to you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
