Thanx Rollo, I can't wait until payday. Then I can place another order. I should be getting my first order of blades, beads, cleaves and floats tomorrow or wedensday. I'll be sure to post my first attempts and maybe some other pics as I progress. I read somewhere's about rattling worm harnesses. Where do you get the rattles for a worm harness? Oh and is there any particular name brand that you get of fluorocarbon? Swizzle