AustinConn Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Ok these are some "will this work" questions. 1) Can you Lead impregnate lures, like put lead shavings in the head of the bait as soon as your pour it? 2) Do you need to use plastic hardener along with your liquid plastic? 3) Im currently using a camp stove with a gas burner. Will this work for melting and pouring plastics. So far it has worked fairly well. Untill later guys, Austin Conn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bros Plastics Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Ok these are some "will this work" questions.1) Can you Lead impregnate lures, like put lead shavings in the head of the bait as soon as your pour it? 2) Do you need to use plastic hardener along with your liquid plastic? 3) Im currently using a camp stove with a gas burner. Will this work for melting and pouring plastics. So far it has worked fairly well. Untill later guys, Austin Conn 1) you could but with the hot plastic and the lead being heavier it might sink to the bottom and show through the top of your worm unless you were to make it micro size which would probably be hard to do. OR if you pour all dark colors then try it out. Let us know how it turns out. 2) No! unless you want a harder bait. 3) Yes it will work but it probably will get expensive to keep buying gas. You can get an electric stove burner at wally world for cheap, just make sure it has an adjustable heat control. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinConn Posted June 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 the lead would be sanded down bullet weight shavings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYqpHUNTER Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 just use salt or sand its cheeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bros Plastics Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 the lead would be sanded down bullet weight shavings. It could work but like MONKEYqpHUNTER said it cheaper to buy salt or sand. Also you might have to coat the lead with something, if lead is touching a plastic worm it turns it whitish color after awhile. Dont know if thats happened to others but its happened quit a few times to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTfishingrods Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Its not advisable to heat your plastic over an open flame! There are several posts on here of people starting fires by using this method for heating their plastic. I think I would take precautions based on their experiences and find another heating method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Brabant Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Be careful if you are sanding, shaving or working with lead. In powder form it is easly injested and absorbed through your skin and lead is poisonous. If you are going to work with lead wear gloves and a resperator. Don't smoke unless you wash your hands thouroughly, proably shouldn't smoke at all. Don't eat or drink unless you wash your hands. And use in a well ventelated area. So basicly use the salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinConn Posted June 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Ok ok salt is it then, as for the flame heating. I have not had a prob with it. It just smokes so badly its not funny. I have to wear a paiter's mask just to pour it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Brabant Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I found a used microwave on craigslist for $0. It was under the free stuff. Look at local yard sales you can find them for $5 or so. It is definetaly easier to control the melt with a microwave. I also made a presto pot that I use for sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinConn Posted June 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I will prob upgrade to a electric heater this summer or winter, I didnt find any at walmart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Brabant Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Any reason you won't use a microwave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Don't use lead inside the plastic; it will go all funky with a whitish slime around it. Try putting BB's in there instead. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnie3035 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I personally don't like salt. I believe is absorbs the oil in the plastic and therefore hardens the bait. If you wish to use lead or perhaps sand then I would pour the bait in two pieces. Just before the bottom section hardens too much simply drop the lead/sand so it adheres to the soft plastic but yet doesn't sink all the way to the bottom. Then pour the upper half and it should work fine. As the others said a microwave is a much better way to heat than using a propane or electric burner. If your worried about the plastic cooling off too much between pours then buy a pancake griddle and set your cup on it between pours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Fingers Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Nova is right i tried putting lead wire in my swimbaits straight after pouring and for the first 2/3 days they looked fine then they started turning the plastic around in to a funky opaque white colour and after a few weeks the baits kind of warped. I suppose as someone else said in this post if you pour only solid dark colours it might work. I would stick to drop shot, weighted hooks, fire balls or jig heads, keep it simple! Just my 2cents.. Cheers, Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinConn Posted June 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Ok thanks guys, Lead is crossed off. Can someone tell me what a PoP mold is? And what do you use to seal a plaster of paris mold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Fingers Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 (edited) Austin, PoP is Plaster of Paris! You can use alot of products with varying durability to seal PoP molds, Devencon 2 ton(SP?) a type of epoxy resin seems to be the most popular and long lasting product used to coat POP molds with. For several years I have succesfully used a 2-3 coats of a type of industrial wood floor varnish, which specifically says it is heat resistant, for my POP molds. Try a search in the forum with sealing POP molds and I am sure you will find a better answer than mine! Edited June 19, 2009 by Green_Fingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinConn Posted June 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 I made a pop mold. I just poured the POP material and then pressed teh baits into it. Turned out pretty good without any sealant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYqpHUNTER Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 were you at i will mail you one of my electic hot plates so you dont burn your self up and you realy need to go to walmart and get a digiatal thermomator before you get some kind of lung cancer or something email me at shanescustombaits@yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...