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@ mark poulson Hope , that you're recovering from the feasting real soon , Mark ! I'd also second to your stat about the upside down "V" cross section , makes the belly part more buoyant , thus the lure is more likely to cant sideward , the belly weight tends to force it back level , thus the lure trembles on descend . But might also have to to with vortices generated along the flanks , creeping from belly up to the back as the lure sinks , ....if you remember , years ago we've had a discussion about vortices in here , .....Vodkaman Dave was deeply involved and led us the right path , ......it was about "why do swimbaits swim the way they do " . I remember having seen diagrams of air vortices around the cross section of an aircraft wing providing lift , probably it is similar with the cross section of a flat bodied sinking glider , ......the wing would be pulled upward and the Lure to the side , since compared to a wing it sits 90°offset ? But by experience I know , that the cross section does not neccessarely requires to be shaped like an upside down "V" , ...a simple flat cross section would work as well(but NOT neccessarely on EVERY lure shape), ...as long , as the width is significantly smaller than the height . But I can't really tell about any accurate physical dynamics ! Greetz , Dieter
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"Herzlich Willkommen" in the TackleUnderground , .....surely you'd enjoy yourself in here , you'd also find lots of input , info and inspiration in here ! Greetz , diemai
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I think , that it's about both features in conjunction with one another , ........I've made a few baits sporting that belly shake , ...but these came rather accidental , in fact I've got no clues . Cheers , diemai
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Does it have any belly weight ? Better to have the fattest portion in the lengthwise center or even slighly behind , ......this way the front portion becomes less buoyant and therefore the diving vane shoulders better into the water , .....just my findings with this type of lures , ...same counts for banana lures , by the way . Really like your paint style , Ryan , .....greetz ,Dieter
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@ wchilton You're dead on , ....just googled that name , this must be the one , .......thanks a lot for having found it for me ! Looks like they are Canadian made , .....stated to be approbiate for casting for northern pike and also suitable to be reverse rigged to change their action( I have already done this for better casting performance ) . This 6" version is called the "C90" size , being the largest "Whitefish " available , stated at 1 1/2 ounces of weight , ....still the "C80" available , stats are 5 1/4" and1 ounce and the smallest "C70" at 4 3/4" and 3/4 ounces of weight , ...all available in a little selection of colors . The "Williams" company offers a few different spoon models as well , one particular said to be sold for 80 years now , ...so one could assume , that these are time proven lures , ....can't wait to throw mine for the first time, ...but local stillwaters might start to ice up soon . Just like to know more about my lures , ...and one never knows , .......if it should turn out to be a good catcher , I can always order for more now . Thanks a lot again , ...greetz , Dieter
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You don't really want to throw this thing , North , do you ? Just too darn beautiful this bird is , would be too bad loosing it or having it shred to pieces by a vicious pike ! You've got a couple of weeks more to go , ...make a few more , would be a great thing to put on the Xmas tree as well . Outstanding work , ...cheers , Dieter
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G'day , Adam , Welcome to the TackleUnderground , ....I see , that you obviously use rattlecans and brush painting to color your lures , very nice ones these are , I like the detailed painting of mouth , gills and eyes . Though I've never been to DownUnder , I'm just a little bit familiar to Tasmanian trout fishing , at least regarding the lures being used . From what I've seen on another site , it looks like the Brownies over there really love such lures in those particular color patterns , seen quite a few made by other carvers for the same purpose . Hope , you'd enjoy yourself in here , ...cheers , diemai
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Galvanized steel wire is crap , you won't enjoy your lures for a longer period of time ,.......might try Ebay(keywords: stainless welding wire , lure making wire) or also lure component mailorder shops . Greetz , Dieter
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@ littleriver Thanks a lot for having struck a blow for my lures , Vic , ......really makes me blush a bit . Hope you'd still catch a lot of bass on this one , ........greetz , Dieter
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@Granddadslures Thanks a lot for your hints , .....I'm familiar to your described method of leaving the ends of a lathe turned blank square , did a few lures this way before . But I did not do this to find the dead center line for the screweyes , bur rather to be able to clamp the blank into the machine vise of my little hobby routing machine , since I intended to furnish some tapering planes on the flanks of the blanks , .......but I could also cut the lipslot accurately angled this way , off course : http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/index.php?/gallery/image/4323-first-adventures-in-foiling/ http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/index.php?/gallery/image/4322-first-adventures-in-foiling/ But I must admit , that I had positioned the angle and symetry of the opposing planes by eyeballing and hand-drawn marker lines again , only used utilized the square ends for clamping solely . But I did also furnish such planes freehanded against my sanding disc also after only hand-drawn marker lines : http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/index.php?/gallery/image/2586-therunt/ If you read the describtion , you will find that I've used round dowels for these , as I most likely do , .....so your described method won't work on such , anyway . Also I do not see a possibility for the method to work for such lures displayed in the topic video , as the lure's tail tapers to an extreme point , if I would utilize a square dowel remainder on this end to position , level and finally cut and machine the integrated diving plane , the thin tail end would just snap off under the strain of the power tool . This method leaving square ends to find centerline , cut lipslots , etc. , would only be useful for lureblanks sporting thicker ends , so that the transisition to the square dowel remainders on either end would not be too thin , ........this was the case with the two lipped lures linked above . I know , that working freehanded I'm sometimes a bit off with the screweye's passes and centers , ....does not happen too often and to me it is not a severe problem , that cannot be fixed . I never had one of my "freehanded" lures fail because of lack of symetry both of body shape , lip or screweye positioning , .......rejects solely occured due to entirely improper designs or non-matching lure dynamics . And regarding any kinds of jigs increasing accuracy or speeding up working processes , .........nowadays I'm making my lures in individual shapes , most likely without any sketches , ......though I have quite a few sketches made during previous years . I know , that this is not very professional in terms of accurate reproduction or a serial production ,......but I just like it that way , since I'm making my lures for recreation down my mancave and out of passion for the subject , I just don't bother much , whether a lure would take me 1 hr or 5 hrs to make , ......it's just for my personal fun and enjoyment . So it won't be worthwile to make jigs for each single lureblank , I guess . And as "littleriver" had stated , .....some people would rely more on ruler and jigs , and other don't , .....I belong to the second category , ......I just like doing my hobby work freehanded , since on my job in the metal industry it is vice versa having to produce workpieces set within tolerances of a few 1000s of a millimetre (though one or two typical operations on the grinding machines there I also eyeball within seconds , where other fellas would use a few minutes with all of the measuring gear neccessary , ...and in the end the results are the same ) . Thanks again for chiming in , ...greetz , Dieter
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Yes , I had already figured out long time ago, that such metal lips must have been added to timber lures to add to a stable swimming action and also provide protection , if the lure should hit bottom obstacles . Also it is easier and faster to manufacture as if elaborately doing weightholes to balance the lure's action , I guess . Not to forget the increased wobble generated by a metal lip even only protruding a few fractions of an inch over the integrated diving vane .
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biggest walleye on one of my Lures
diemai commented on bluewaterspecial's gallery image in Trophy Room
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@ hazmail Thanks a lot for that link , Pete , ...very interesting , .......guess it's the light red meranti then , ...the floating level of the blanks about matches the stated specific weight of 560 kg/SquareMetre . You don't get such timbers in ordinary toolmarts over here , need to attend to specialized lumberyards , ........but stilts from fleamarkets are a lot cheaper , payed 3 Euros and can get at least a dozen of medium-sized lures out of them . Yeah , the video turned out pretty long , with all the things I had to say , ...don't wanna take the time of editing on the computer as well , in fact I do not have a good editing program so far , ........took several hours to upload , anyway ! Thanks a lot , ....greetz , Dieter
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No , it is not made from steel , ....made the magnet test , does not stick , ...I assume chromed brass . Thanks , diemai
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Hi , People , Purchased a little uncommon spoon from US Ebay the other day , the offer simply applied to a large 6" trolling spoon , no manufacturer was stated . Since I'm an enthusiastic spoon guy , and the offer turned out cheap , I bought that spoon , ......should be American made , I reckon . It came with a meaty chromed hook attached to the slim end and on the wider end it had a sort of a jigging spoon of brass attached , obviously homemade , supposively acting as an added weight to keep the spoon deeper . Just rigged the spoon with new hardware as shown to try it for casting , .....it is made of hammered sheet metal of 1mm thickness(little less that 1/20"). Someone in here , that could possibly name the manufacturer , model name or knows something about the way , this lure is originally supposed to be fished ? Thanks a lot , diemai
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@ gotemcustombaits Welcome to the TackleUnderground , hope you'd enjoy yourself in here . Can't tell about fins , but many swimbait builders utilize interconnected screweyes or screweyes and pins or interconnected wire forms to join the sections of their swimbaits . Almost impossible to find ready made hinges , as the ones available are most likely too large and heavy for lures , .....smaller ones available would not be rustproof or simply not hold up against fighting fish . Regarding swimbait hinges there have been some discussions in here through the past years , ....I can only remember about one type of hinge , that someone had installed into a PVC swimbait , which he had purchased from a boat parts supplier , if my memory serves me right . I had even tried to make my own hinges out of stainless steel sheet and brass pins , but the working effort turned out to be too much , also they were quite heavy . Greetz , diemai
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