Musky0503 Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 That is pretty good, and for your second try I'd say it is excellent! Di you pull test to get loose hair out and make sure your buck tail is secure? Alya do that to make sure your hair is secure, and that is another reason I like the flat waxed nylon, you can cinch it down tight and the wax keeps the thread from friction spots that are weak and it helps hold the material, you're off to a great start, now it won't be long before you start tying spinners too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimP Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) You are on the way. For a fuller look tie on your material in layers. Strive to reduce the thread head to about 1/2 of the current legnth. For inspiration study a MEPPS spinner, they are usually squirrel tail. YouTube has almost 6000 hits if you search "youtube bucktail treble hooks". Edited July 13, 2015 by JimP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky0503 Posted July 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 I"m trying to do just that. That seems to be harder than anything. I have many spinners I learn off of. I do tie in layers.Thanks for the help guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky0503 Posted July 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 What can i do to make it fuller and to decrease the thread head? It seeems to matter where I start tying in ends up to be a big head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimP Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Muskey0503: Here is a relativly small #4 Mustad treble hook that is tied with bucktail. How long you make the bucktail is up to you. The hook in the photo has bucktail where most of the hair is about twice the legnth of the hook. A few are longer and can be trimmed if thats the look you want. No rules in this game, what ever you like. Play around until you find your correct proportions. I like to cut to legnth and then just tie in the butts, usually there is no need to trim after you tie in. (a tip from the online videos) The first layer was the red bucktail, it was tied in just in front of the hook points. The amount of hair for each of the three sections was about 1/2 of a pencil diameter tied into the valley between the hook points. Then a coating of head cement on the thread. Tie it in firmly but dont bulk it up too much. The next layer is the white bucktail. The thread was advanced to within an 1/8 of an inch of the eye. The white bucktail is about the same amount. If you want to completly cover the base layer you might need to tie in smaller amounts here and there to get a even color. Nothing wrong with letting the base layer show through, its up to you. The base layer did not have to be neat but the top layer is all visible so take care and trim any excess with a tapered cut and give it a nice round head. Top it off with some head cement and go fishing. Good Fishing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky0503 Posted July 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Ahh thanks Jim I was trying to cram all the hair in one tie point. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I'm sorry but the picture is unrealistic, Musky size trebles with buck tail require heavier thread and more hair and that is going to increase the size the "head". Showing that picture of a size 4 treble that is tied with 70 denier or 3/0 thread is a far cry from a 4/0 or 5/0 treble tied with 400 denier thread. Musky0503 has a decent treble, it is maybe 1/16" long but no more and the wraps and clear coat could be a little nicer but that is about it, that picture is apples to oranges for what he is doing and again, it is Musky baits, not standard size bass trebles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Musky That's not bad at all for your second treble!!! SJ is spot on, small trebles are bad enough but a 5/0 treble is tough!! It's better to tie in smaller clumps than cramming it in - doing the smaller bunch's will help secure the hair better also. Just take your time and you'll get better. Tying trebles can be hazardous to your fingers!!LOL If it wasn't that you're tying 5/0's I say try some cross cut zonker strips as they're quick and easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
