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  1. I haven't had much luck with the fine glitter. ( .08 ), Ive tried all the suggestions you've made on other projects. I especially like the Rustoleum. I use that one smaller jigs and baits because its easy to find. I like the idea of the Solarez. I use the thick hard for tying bucktails. But the idea of the clear thin sounds interesting. When I expose the resin to the light it smokes. I wonder if that could damage the glitter? I bet using the clear resin with the sparkle gold glitter would make an awesome bait! Thanks Mark for helping me spend more money! Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I'm getting a list of winter projects going and the diamond jigs are high on the list. Followed by tin neko mushroom weights for the non toxic lakes I fish.
  2. Not really asking for help, just suggestions. Been doing this bait making thing a long time. 30+ years. Soft baits, hard baits, wood baits, lead, tin and so on. Just looking to see how others do it, as some of the methods I've tried have given me less than spectacular results with glitter coating. The two things that have gone wrong for me have been once going over silver paint with a clear, the silver becomes dull. And using different glitters it seems the solvents in some of the clear coats have melted the poly glitter. As far as asking for help or suggestions in the forum, if everybody did their own thing, the forum wouldn't exist.
  3. I use a lot of big diamond jigs for saltwater stripers and bluefish. I also lose a lot of them. Been looking into either getting a diamond jog mold, or buying raw lead jigs. But have no way of chrome plating them. I have used some that were coated in glittler. I've tried that using a clearcoat spray paint, with less than desirable results. And silver powder paints didn't work too well either. I was wondering if coating the jig with epoxy then covering it with glitter, then another coat of epoxy would work Would the epoxy melt the glitter? Another option would be to use vinyl paint, but I think that would melt the glitter. Foils and epoxy maybe? Ideas? Suggestion? I just priced a Viking jig and it was $22.00, Can't keep sacrificing those to the toothy critters, and wrecks.
  4. Yes it is, and very effective, and also getting hard to find. I'm trying to make 7" ribbon tail worms, and have come close. And I've been making Senko types in the close color with guys constantly asking me for more as it seems they're highly successful on smallmouth bass. Thanks guys. So I have the baby bass, but now need root beer, light pumpkin and Carolina pumpkin. And the light root beer. Of course the only colors I don't have! And of course they have to be from different suppliers. Oh well this addiction keeps off the street and out of trouble
  5. One of the color I had a lot of success with through the years has been Berkley camo. I have come close to matching the color. Close but no cigar. Tried the recipe book posted here. But it comes out looking more like terracotta clay. Does anyone have a recipe for camo they can share? I've made some sort of brown with adding green hi lite powder. And it's sort of close. But I end up using more glitter to bring out the color instead of colorings. This is one of the two color that has me baffled. The other is Yamo 197. Again close but no cigar.
  6. Try Lureworks. Looks a little like scuppernong, or natural with a tiny bit of orange. On their website suppernong looks brownish, but I use very little to produce a light orange color that i use to make perch colored baits.
  7. I have so many mold makers bookmarked I keep forgetting who makes what. I do have Bait Junkys and I'll go back and check. I use the large grubs for saltwater. Great for stripers, and blues, although the damn blues are great at chopping your baits in half.
  8. I had my own redneck method for core shot baits. I ordered some 1/16"and 1/8" stainless rod from a company close by me. Cut to length to fit in my mold, Lubed those rod with WD-40, and shot away. Seemed like the 1/16 was too small and the 1/8" was too big. Out of a four cavity mold, maybe two would shoot correctly. Made some cool looking baits, but was too much work for so little return. One bait color I make I cal perch. Its an orange and green laminate. similar to Yamo perch. I used a transparent light orange outer color, with a green core.Oddly when using the greens, which were either dark watermelon, or baby bass colorings, the greens wouldn't show through the orange even though the orange was transparent. Best most vivid core colors were the purples, and the black. But again, a lot of plastic gets wasted if only 50% of the baits come out. But the ones that came out...Man! did they look awesome. So ya see, even here in New England we have rednecks!
  9. I'm the same. Many colors, types of baits. Bit in my 50 plus years of fishing I find I fish a variety of waters, fresh and salt. Unless you and I are fishing the same waters, my needs are for different colors for the different baits. I use glow colors for stripers at night. Clear stickbaits with bright glitter for my gin clear lakes. When I go out fishing, I go loaded for bear. I have no idea why the fish want a specific item on any given day. I'm on the east coast. Water levels are extremely high here. so I fish another different condition. If every day were the same, if every lake were the same, I wouldn't need a full tackle bag. Also I do like to experiment. So why not make all different stuff. For me, that's therapy to keep me sane in between fishing outings, and during the cold winters. And who knows? Every once in a while one of my oddball creations might actually catch fish! That's part of the fun of making your own baits. Example, one Memorial Day I tied a bunch of bucktails using red white and blue deer hair, poured some red white and blue trailers and passed them out to friends, And they caught smallies on them. They thought it was funny as hell. I make many laminates, and they all catch fish. I make stickbaits, grubs, craws, wacky worms, and the list goes on. I pour tin baits, lead baits. Tie bucktails, and share everything with fishing buddies. So these are the reasons I make so many different things. The main reason I do is because I enjoy it, not because the fish want only certain things. Now getting back to the core shot baits. I just like the way they look. It's the cool factor. Will they catch more fish? There's only one way to find out. Do I need core shot baits? Doubt it. I mean really, a bunch of night crawlers and some hooks would do the job better than any of my baits. But making these baits gives me something to do. I enjoy it, and come on, when you make a new bait, and it catches fish, tell me it doesn't give that bait and fish and little more of the fun factor. I fish a different body of water every weekend, each requiring a different technique. So I'll continue to experiment, and have fun matching my baits to the conditions. After my coreshot mold, my next toy will be a dual injector.
  10. Good idea! I have enough catalogs with color photos of their stuff. I’ll check them out
  11. I guess I should have made myself more clear. That’s my bad. I’ve seen the Kalins grubs and they work. Years back that was the only brand I used for smallmouth. But what I was actually looking for was a mold maker that has a mold that can make a grub thick enough to put on a big 7/0 hook.
  12. Who makes s 6inch single tail grub that is thick enough to stand up to a large 7/0 siwash or O Shaugnessy hook? This will be for saltwater applications. If need be I could also use an 8 inch grub and just trim it to size. Length can always be adjusted. It's the thickness that's important.
  13. And who among us has not bought a new lure because it was all fancy, cool, shiny, etc? Isn't that part of what fishing is? Acquiring more stuff? I'm sure we all have a collection of stuff we bought and threw into the bottomless pit of fishing lures that didn't work, but man did they look awesome! Part of the reason we pour our own baits is the fun factor. And why not experiment? Make something new and "eye catching"? There are tons of lures out there that do a better job of catching fishermen instead of fish. We all have 'em. I just want to make my own. And who knews, in the process I might actually make something that works. Oh yeah I already boxes and boxes of those. So back to the original question. What color combos would you make?
  14. I've been wanting a core shot stickbait mold for sometime now, I'm finally ready to pull the trigger but don't know what I's actually make with it. Color Combo wise that is. If you already make core shot baits, what color combos do you make? Or suggest? C'mon guys, I need your help to justify the investment. I really like the way core shot baits look. But do they work any better. I need a better reason than being able to make cool looking senkos!
  15. Was expecting a little more flash than regular or hologram glitter. Maybe a little more flash or iridescence? I tried some clear, nice results but I don't make any clear baits. I did try an opaque stick bait. That was for an order I had. Regular glitter was heads and tails above the shine of the sparkle. Scratching my head over that one. Tonight a tried a white pearl smoke with the .035 violet. Not bad, but I can see where the .015 would certainly be a better choice. Interestingly, using MF crayfish color with the .035 violet the baits took on a violet color. Before you say I overheated it, upon further review, the baits were the right color, brownish sort of, but there was enough glimmer in the violet to give the baits a purple cast. Came out a pretty cool looking color. I also find that thinner baits seem to show the sparkle effect better. Of course, that I'm sure would depend on what I'm pouring. I do have some smoke regrinds I can reheat, so now I'm looking forward to trying that using the gold in some, and the violet in some. Will be mostly bigger 5" grubs.
  16. I'm glad it wasn't just me. Not thrilled with the product at all. I honestly feel as though regular violet or hologram gold, would work just as well in my applications.
  17. So I had to go ahead and watch a YT video with someone using the Lureworks sparkle glitter. Look pretty cool, so of course I had to order some. I ordered the Violet, Gold and Green sparkle flake .040 for each. Fast delivery so went right to work. I used a crayfish color with the violet. And a brown almost Berkley Camo for the gold, the green was out of stock. These are the colors I use the most. I gotta say, I was underwhelmed. The violet in the crayfish came out pretty good. But nothing spectacular. The brown with gold was no big deal at all. I think my hologram gold was better. One thing I didn't like about the glitter was you need to use a lot! In the grand scheme of things , a lot being double what you would normally use, and then some. But you won't use a jar in a couple days. Using a lot though means coarse baits. And the cooler temps ( approx. 290* ) needed to keep from damaging the glitter makes it difficult to inject baits. Wish there was a sparkle blue as I do make a lot of black w/ blue glitter baits. So I'm not sold on these glitters. They're double the price of regular. Not sure they're worth it. Two 2oz. jars with shipping and tax came to $30. Maybe there's a learning curve, so I will keep working with these until I find a combo that moves me. BTW. I did follow the YT guy's instructions to the letter.
  18. I solved the problem by using a couple drops of plain orange, and plain green to each color. Nice coloring now. Lost the florescence, and the green needs to be tinkered with a bit. but all in all these didn't come out too bad.
  19. I'm right up there with you guys. So let's see. In the past five days, I've gotten a couple gals of plastic with additives. Worm oil and scents, and was just looking at color charts for green and orange or yellow colors. Of course these were all from different manufacturers. I mean why would I order everything at once? I thought I saw a thread about how much does lure making cost. Seems like $15.00 a worm at times. It's worse than having a garden and growing $20.00 a pound tomatoes. Looking at some firetiger plugs, green looks closer to what I need, and plain orange, with maybe a drop of yellow in both colors. These are skinny drop shot worms I'm making so its easy for the colors to blend together. MF here comes another order. Of course I added color before heating, but just adding more and more as I stirred. Looks great in the cup. Not so much in the bait. I don't use these my son does, and he thinks they look great. I'm a perfectionist and like to drive myself crazy getting it right. Crazy is how this hobby makes us.
  20. Started making some firetiger laminated senkos, and cut tail worms. Came out well enough, but it seems that no matter how much coloring I used the two colors seemed to come out almost transparent Colors were Florescent Orange, and Florescent Chartreuse. Salt was used as well. Still came out almost as though the colors bled. but after inspection I can see through the colors. Would adding a normal green and a normal orange to the florescent colors help bring out my two colors? And yes the florescent colors were added before heating. I was also thinking of adding chartreuse glitter and orange glitter. You think that might help?
  21. I started out some time back using the salt from MF. I was plenty satisfied with it. But the price for it and from other sellers has risen to a point where I needed to find alternatives. Took kosher salt ran it through an electric coffee grinder, and turned it into a fine powder. Works fine in baits, for my use at least. But for those who grind their own, how do you keep it from caking? My bought brands of salt never caked. Is there something they add to keep it from caking?
  22. I just bought my first gallon from Dead On. Same problem. I've been pouring for around 30 years and never had this.No matter how careful I am my baits are loaded with bubbles. I also find it takes my baits a lot longer to cure than other brands I've used. A friend went the same route and just bought his first gallon of Dead on as well. Same issue, More bubbles than fine champagne. Ended up going to MF. Back to MF plastisol for me too. I'm pretty sure an average hobby bait maker like myself, doesn't need a vacuum chamber, or the expense of one. I'll spend the extra $20 or so, and use the left over money from not buying a vacuum chamber for more fishing stuff.
  23. LOL was just pouring a few minutes ago and thinking to myself that I should consider getting a vacuum chamber. I never had the bubble issue with any other plastic I used. And I've tried them all. In all my years of pouring I had never seen bubbles like this. I was using a larger container of coloring and it had separated quite a bit. It was one of those colors that haven't been used in so long you wonder what it looks like. I'm thinking too much of the liquid medium hadn't mixed and boiled out? So this time pouring, I used no coloring, I did use salt and glitter. And stirred a lot less. Though in my initial pour I stirred no differently than any other plastic. No bubbles. No tacky though that wasn't the problem. And I'm aware of the moisture issue. I had ground my own salt when I ran out of the suppliers salt. And it has clumped up some. I don't know if the salt we all buy has an additive in to keep it from clumping. I have god knows how many jars of glitter and coloring, and of course only use 5 of each at most. And although we yankees have humid summers, moisture in those has been nil. Second pouring of Dead On has been ok. but when I use this up, back to MF. That dollar wouldn't have lasted too long. You'd be spending it on molds, supplies, glitter...etc We that fish are good for the economy!
  24. Or you could do what we've all done at some point. Add softener, then if too soft add hardener, and then add softener. Until you get it just right Be honest guys, we've all done it. Deep down inside we're all just mad scientists1
  25. This past weekend, I had gone to help a young man pour some baits. He's a newbie. I've been pouring about 25 years. He was complaining his baits ( senko) were coming out sticky and tacky. First thing that came to mind was cooking temps. So we started pouring craws. Using my molds, and his Dead on for worms. Got the plastic up to temps. but I got the same results. Know as an above poster mentioned, once you remove X ounces of improperly mixed liquid, no matter how well you mix it, the formula is off. So he let them cure overnight, the next day he tells me they're better. But not tack free. This was the weekend. And sure enough on Friday I ordered my first gallon of Dead On Worm blend. Came today. Poured a dozen senkos in the Yamamoto cnc mold. No tacky thing going on but man! Bubble City, Any suggestions to fix this? I did nothing different with the plastic than I've ever done with other brands. Baits are super soft too. That can be fixed, But are the bubbles a normal thing with dead on? I had used a moss green dye and I'm wondering if that may have separated and the watery part caused a boil? First temps were at 360. Bare plastic senko weighed 8.5g added salt weight went to 10.0 a little stiffer. I can live with all that, but the bubbles! OK I rambled. but to the OP, check your temps. That should solve the falling apart.
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